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Guiding and PGCE

jennthedeadfunkyranger

Guide Guider
GuiderPlus
#1
I never used to have a problem before juggling Guides and uni, apart from teh odd occasion when I had exams or several essays together. But thsi year, doing my PGCE, it's a lot harder. I haev not missed Guides yet, though been tempted to once or twice when I knoew I have load to do after. I feel like I'm rubbish when I'm there as I'm just so tired, and that annoys me.

Are other PGCE people the same, and those who have done PGCEs previously how did you manage?

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Dietcoke

Brownie Guider and Forum Moderater
#2
Hi
Ive not done a pgce myself but know lots of different people who have and it IS very different to doing a degree which is hard as it is. It is acceptional diffiuclt year and there is a great deal to do and learn.
Of course we all need a few hours off a week and if guiding is something that you enjoy not like ek more kids today I cant do it!!! Then go for it.
Are you the only GIC? or are you able to take more of a backseat?
It is only a year , ok so after that you have your NQT year but it does get better ive heard!!
If your guiding from 18-65 whats having a year or two out??
 

dollypip

Rach or Dolly i'll answer to anything...
#3
OMG jen I know what you mean... I spend all weds planning and doing uni work while on placement and when i'm at uni i finish at 6. I just want to sleep as I am 28 miles from my placement so I have to leave at 7:15am

Its so hard and all the weekend activities seem to go out of the window too because it takes so long to recover... aswell as social life.
 

Kingfisher

Veteran (100+ posts)
#4
Hello! I did a PGCE and ran a large Guide unit at the same time...but it was very difficult. I never wanted to go to Guides as I didn't have enough time, but when I was there I was glad I went...you do need to have something 'away from it all'.

It's true - actual teaching is only slightly less stressful, but if your heart is in Guiding as mine is, then you'll still be doing both 13 years later like I am!!!!!!!!
 
#5
Oh no, I want to do a PGCE and I had hoped to open a rainbow group that year to feed my Brownie group (not literally!) but I guess I may have to put that on the back burner. I still have a year of uni left anyway :-(

What age PGCE are you guys doing?
 

jennthedeadfunkyranger

Guide Guider
GuiderPlus
#6
I'm doing MFL - French with Spanish. Which has been identified as one of the worst for exhaustion etc cos we are far more 'hands on' and teacher led than other subjects.

I would love a social life again... we went out for a meal last week, and most of us realised that the last time we had been out full stop was the previous time we had gone for a meal out...

I'm not GiC, which helps!
 

dollypip

Rach or Dolly i'll answer to anything...
#7
I'm doing a PGCE in FE specialising in Psychology and Health and Social Care and jens doing secondary MFL
 
#8
Oh cool. I'm hoping to do primary. They both sound like really full on courses - are your GiC and the rest of the team quite good at supporting you?
 

lucy_jb

Veteran (100+ posts)
#9
I really struggled when I did my PGCE! It's a lot better now I'm an NQT. If I can help any more, feel free to PM me.
 

dollypip

Rach or Dolly i'll answer to anything...
#10
i just tell them straight but the paperwork in a pgce will kill you EVERYTHING has to be justified and outlined. Also the distance you are from your placement will affect you more than anthing...
 

jennthedeadfunkyranger

Guide Guider
GuiderPlus
#13
Thanks, that's good advice. I think I will leave starting a rainbow group ATM!
Yeah - I cou;dn't manage anything earlier than Guids, even though I'm not too bad at getting away earlish on a Monday. There's some nights when I've been at school till 6, and staying till 5 is not uncommon for me. I'm 10 miles away at the moment - with my first palcement I was lucky and was only 3 miles away. Some people hae been sent MUCH further.

And to back Dolly up on the paperwork - everything has to be completed in octuplicate at least, signed in blood and countersigned by your next door neighbour's auntie's goldfish. We have forms to say which forms we have filled in and I'm surprisef there isn't a form to say you've filled in the form to say you've filled in a form...
 

dollypip

Rach or Dolly i'll answer to anything...
#14
i'm 25ish miles away from home and have to go thru manc on a monday then round manc the rest of the week. i usually get home at 5 only cos theres no where for me to work there and it takes me ages to get home if i leave later


Yeah - I cou;dn't manage anything earlier than Guids, even though I'm not too bad at getting away earlish on a Monday. There's some nights when I've been at school till 6, and staying till 5 is not uncommon for me. I'm 10 miles away at the moment - with my first palcement I was lucky and was only 3 miles away. Some people hae been sent MUCH further.

And to back Dolly up on the paperwork - everything has to be completed in octuplicate at least, signed in blood and countersigned by your next door neighbour's auntie's goldfish. We have forms to say which forms we have filled in and I'm surprisef there isn't a form to say you've filled in the form to say you've filled in a form...
 

lucy_jb

Veteran (100+ posts)
#15
My final PGCE placement was 50 minutes away from where I lived when the roads were ok. There is a kind of light at the end of the tunnel.
 
#16
*Has hysterical cying fit*

And there I was thinking Brownies would fit in nicely! Never mind it will have to be some very late nights... and perhaps just stick to Brownies too. Still got to apply though, for all I know I might not get a place and will end up back at Tesco - there's nothing wrong with working there but I was there 2 1/2 years which was quite enough...

*Goes to wail in a corner*
 
#18
Lol - I left during my exams last year because they were so unflexible, plus my bf left and it just wasn't the same really without him at work. I do kind of miss it, but just for the hilarity of the people you meet - I worked on Customer Services and we met some real characters!!! Do you find Sunday is one of the worst days to work - it seems to be the day when people are most stressed, strangely!
 

jennthedeadfunkyranger

Guide Guider
GuiderPlus
#20
I gave up my part time job (at a large fast food place that shall remain nameless) wehn I finished uni, knowing I'd never manage that too. There's no way I could do it, but my £9000 bursary is enough to live off, and it's also way more than I'd get flipping burgers and asking people if they want fries with that. Not that I ever actually sai "do you want fries with that". Did my best to get round it!!