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fenris

fenris
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What do we do if we have just one Rainbow aged 5 and the others are all nearly 7 and will have already started level 2 SBs before the 5 year old joins, then?
That will be our situation later in the year. I bet that's pretty common (small unit, lots of girls one age and 1 or 2 another age. Or all the 9 year old Brownies leave except 1).

And then when our Brownies are older we will have 1 or 2 aged 9 who have potentially done all the Stage 2 packs (maybe not all the individual activities, but they should be moving on to level 3 plus they can't really do odd Stage 2 that they missed together with another group that's doing all the other 4 for the first time).

Again, we have a small number of Rainbows and Brownies so if e.g. we have 3 of each present they can do the UMAs in groups of 3 but if we had 1 Rainbow and 5 Brownies present, the Rainbow could do the Brownie UMA and catch up another time with a Rainbow UMA but we can't do that with SB.
Some of the Leaders can act as the 'other group'.

Girls only do one Skills Builder of each theme in Brownies - it's likely that they will end up with a mix of level 2 (ones they did when younger) and 3 (ones they did when older) making up their 6. They wouldn't normally do 2 SBs from the same theme during their time in Brownies.
 

maz

Veteran (100+ posts)
Started innovate. I think to start with all activities are going to have a lot of prep. But we've now started to build a resource folder to go with activity.
Tonight was inventing which ment a kims style game. We now have printout for all the invented items used. The girls invented a ride on hover, pogo stick with booster for sky jumping. Very inventive.
Other group did art work using items we had in craft box. They had fun.
Whilst girls working on own a leader updated GO. So no work to do at home.
Thankfully I have enough leaders and helpers to assign a job.
 

Willow

Veteran (100+ posts)
Girls only do one Skills Builder of each theme in Brownies - it's likely that they will end up with a mix of level 2 (ones they did when younger) and 3 (ones they did when older) making up their 6. They wouldn't normally do 2 SBs from the same theme during their time in Brownies.
How many SBs are you thinking of doing a year?

With Guides, we're looking at one every term initially, while we try out the programme. I'm hoping this means that most will end up with two a year, but someone with good attendance could easily end up with three.

Looking at the Camp SBs, we'll cover a lot of this naturally in preparation for residentials/whilst being away, so if that isn't our chosen SB for the term, girls may end up with a bonus SB or two there. I'm also quite keen to try your suggestion of a joint Brownie/Guide SB, perhaps as an activity day.

I got the impression that there were two SBs per theme, plus the multiple stage options, both to provide stretch/breadth/challenge but also to allow for more than the minimum number of SBs in a section, without repetition?
 

Trinny

Veteran (100+ posts)
Whilst girls working on own a leader updated GO. So no work to do at home.
Thankfully I have enough leaders and helpers to assign a job.
If there was a volunteer who wouldn't mind putting things in Go, that might be a nice value add to District meetings - come along, bring your term plan and register and Cathy will input your SBs for you. People could log in themselves in then Cathy would do the faff on Go while you participate in the meeting.
If it could be arranged, it would have a few advantages- leaders would have less admin, there would be additional incentive to attend District meetings, plus District would get a view of which units are doing it as expected and which aren't. Obviously if leaders would rather record it themselves they could, but I suspect some would like a little help.
 
If there was a volunteer who wouldn't mind putting things in Go, that might be a nice value add to District meetings - come along, bring your term plan and register and Cathy will input your SBs for you. People could log in themselves in then Cathy would do the faff on Go while you participate in the meeting.
If it could be arranged, it would have a few advantages- leaders would have less admin, there would be additional incentive to attend District meetings, plus District would get a view of which units are doing it as expected and which aren't. Obviously if leaders would rather record it themselves they could, but I suspect some would like a little help.
This is something that I am asking for volunteers from my parents for. Many of them don't have time to come to regular meetings or be a unit helper, but a way they can help out in their own time would really help all my leaders.
 

helenfelen

Veteran (100+ posts)
If there was a volunteer who wouldn't mind putting things in Go, that might be a nice value add to District meetings - come along, bring your term plan and register and Cathy will input your SBs for you. People could log in themselves in then Cathy would do the faff on Go while you participate in the meeting.
If it could be arranged, it would have a few advantages- leaders would have less admin, there would be additional incentive to attend District meetings, plus District would get a view of which units are doing it as expected and which aren't. Obviously if leaders would rather record it themselves they could, but I suspect some would like a little help.
if they were entering info on GO they would need to be DBS checked and down as a unit administrator with their own login, you would not be able to log in & then let them imput the details as they would have access to the girls details and if they are not registered it is a GDPR and data protection breach.
 
Afraid I don't know what pack as I organised mine into themes!! But it was Express Myself theme :)
I've organised our UMA packs into themes too - just worked out why i hadn't seen the - magic moving postcards UMA.
I have the rainbow ones - i expect the activity you mentioned is it in Brownie UMA pack?
Glad you enjoyed it.
 

floss

Veteran (100+ posts)
GuiderPlus
I have just been through all the Skills Builders stages 4 and 5 working out how to adapt them for Lones. If anyone needs them, PM me - I will put them in the files once complete (I don't have Camp 5 yet)
 

Foxi

Guide Guider
OMG I am half way through entering the girls details on Go for this week at Guides and I kid you not I am getting RSI. The girls did a UMA of their choice in Patrol time (they selected them last week at our first meeting back) and we did one SB in the rest of the meeting. They have got to improve the system & there is no way I could do this at the end of each term.
Warning if you enter that the unit completed a challenge all girls seem to be accredited even the ones that were not there!
Positive is that the girls loved the mad chatters party particularly as we had hot chocolate and cakes that were left over from camp.
 

browniebeth

Brownie Leader
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Yes, on UMAs you can mark the whole unit complete, but then on the second table you can go through and delete each activity from girls who weren't there by selecting "delete" from the drop down arrow.

Skills builders....I have been through and added the one we're working on to all girls, I don't intend on going back to that until I can mark it complete for the vast majority.
 

fenris

fenris
GuiderPlus
Yes, on UMAs you can mark the whole unit complete, but then on the second table you can go through and delete each activity from girls who weren't there by selecting "delete" from the drop down arrow.

Skills builders....I have been through and added the one we're working on to all girls, I don't intend on going back to that until I can mark it complete for the vast majority.
Once the SB has been entered for all (which is the slow part) it's comparatively quick to update with tasks completed, so you could update their records before completion if you wished.
 

Squirrel-Nutkin

The Wicked Witch of the West (15,000+ posts)
Did you mean the mask templates SN? I bought from Hobbycraft (10 for £1, elastic £2.20). The girls decorated them with felt pens.

At the weekend I walked round our village photographing potential dangers (there were lots). Printed two images to an A4, then laminated. We stuck them round the meeting place for the groups to go around and discuss with their Helper the danger and how to stay safe in each situation.
I just couldn't bring myself to mark out a 'masking tape' road on the hall floor then throw a scarf on the ground for 'water' and a stuffed animal for a dog!
I like that idea, although I have marked up a road before with 'skipping ropes' and practised crossing the road... not sure I've done scarf for water and a dog before!

have you seen the 'wiggle words' UMA... am still pondering how to do that one [think that might just have to be pictures of different dangers too as I can't bring myself to get the girls to 'wiggle']
 

Squirrel-Nutkin

The Wicked Witch of the West (15,000+ posts)
How many SBs are you thinking of doing a year?

With Guides, we're looking at one every term initially, while we try out the programme. I'm hoping this means that most will end up with two a year, but someone with good attendance could easily end up with three.

Looking at the Camp SBs, we'll cover a lot of this naturally in preparation for residentials/whilst being away, so if that isn't our chosen SB for the term, girls may end up with a bonus SB or two there. I'm also quite keen to try your suggestion of a joint Brownie/Guide SB, perhaps as an activity day.

I got the impression that there were two SBs per theme, plus the multiple stage options, both to provide stretch/breadth/challenge but also to allow for more than the minimum number of SBs in a section, without repetition?
all sections 'roll out' is 2 years, so girls will be cycling round to another lot of SB in year 3 of brownies and years 3 and 4 of guides as they'd have their '6' from the first 2 years in the section? So in guides in theory could earn all the SB in a variety of stages?
 

Willow

Veteran (100+ posts)
Skills builders....I have been through and added the one we're working on to all girls, I don't intend on going back to that until I can mark it complete for the vast majority.
At the moment I'm updating the programme on GO after each meeting. We are running two different skills builders, and doing either one or two activities for each of these, so with UMA fillers there are potentially four or five different things to record, which will be different for each group. There are quite a lot of girls missing meetings or arriving late for sensible and unavoidable reasons, and so it feels easier (for us) to keep up-to-date as we go.
 

fenris

fenris
GuiderPlus
all sections 'roll out' is 2 years, so girls will be cycling round to another lot of SB in year 3 of brownies and years 3 and 4 of guides as they'd have their '6' from the first 2 years in the section? So in guides in theory could earn all the SB in a variety of stages?
Only in theory. For many Guide units it will be similar to GFIs, in that they will do 2 per year, one in autumn term and one in spring term, as summer is 'outdoor term' for doing wide games, backwoods skills, outdoor community projects, and campskills prep. And the fourth year may well be for the likes of Camp Permit/ Commonwealth Award as well as tying any loose ends progress-wise.