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Witchy

Beginner (10+ posts)
#1
hey guys I have just taken over a group of lovely girls and the lady who is training cane to visit the other day and asked if we was happy how we started and ending the group we start with our sixes do arches and our song and at the end we stand in a circle do our prayer say goodnight
I’m curious as to how you guys run yours so I can get some ideas to change things a little

Thanks in advance
 

browniebeth

Brownie Leader
Staff member
GuiderPlus
Moderator
#2
To start: the sixes come in from their corners one at a time, through the arches made by leaders. They sing "We're Brownie Guides" etc with actions.

Ending in a circle we do Brownie Bells (with either little fingers or imitating handbells), segue into Brownie Smile song and close by spelling out Goodnight taking steps towards the middle "G-O-O-D-N-I-G-H-T Goodnight"
 

Kochanski

Veteran (100+ posts)
#4
I used to love the opening with the song and the arches. My new unit doesn't do it. It involved a bit I've never seen before or since - anyone else know it? Brown Owl would curl up on the floor in the middle of where the circle would go and pretend to wake up, look around at the lines in corners and ask, "Who are you?", to which the Brownies would answer by singing the song.
(Think I'd struggle getting down onto the floor and back up again now though!)
 

beanie87

Beginner (10+ posts)
#6
I took over a Pack a couple of years ago (have been assistant before that at same pack) and they simply spell "Welcome": holding pinkies in a circle close knit, jumping out on each letter then run to middle shouting "Welcome". We do the same with "Goodnight" at the end. However, I like BrownieBeth's way of doing things so may try to incorporate some of that.
 

Epona

Veteran (100+ posts)
#9
I would worry about how a muslim, hindu or buddhist family moving into the area would perceive the unit's inclusiveness. It would be very uncomfortable for any of their daughters coming along to try it out; maybe try something more generic at the end?

Your arches tradition sounds lovely though.
 

Lemon13

Beginner (10+ posts)
#10
We start with a slightly altered version of We're brownie guides (so that it fits the current promise) we skip round in a circle holding hands and change facings at the end of each line of the song with a woo (we were trying to get them a bit more enthusiastic and use up more of their energy when they came in). At the end we do an alternative version of brownie bells linking little fingers and swinging followed by spelling goodnight stepping backwards for each letter then they all run/walk into the middle shouting "goooooood" and then jump and clap shouting "night"
 

Witchy

Beginner (10+ posts)
#11
I would worry about how a muslim, hindu or buddhist family moving into the area would perceive the unit's inclusiveness. It would be very uncomfortable for any of their daughters coming along to try it out; maybe try something more generic at the end?

Your arches tradition sounds lovely though.
 

Witchy

Beginner (10+ posts)
#12
That is what I thought by doing the prayers we are excluding people from other religions
I think this needs to be re thought
Thankyou
 

pipperpa

Beginner (10+ posts)
GuiderPlus
#13
In my old rainbow unit we finished with a 'Prayer' but it wasn't really religious - more a reflection about being good and kind. It was something that was taught at one of the local private schools that had been adopted when the unit opened in the early 90s. We called it a 'Prayer' within the unit for want of a better word - or at least that was the case for me. Unfortunately it is 3 years since I left that unit and I am struggling to recall the words - despite saying it every week for 10 years!

At my current unit we meet alongside the Brownies - and share our openings and endings. We start with the Rainbow Look/Learn/Laugh/Learn song and then go on to sing "We're Brownie Guides". The words grate with me slightly now that the promise has changed but the girls enjoy it. @Lemon13 I would be interested to know how you have adapted it. We have discussed changing it but concluded we didn't know what to change it to so have remained with the status quo. We end with our adaptation of "Brownie Bells" - Time for the end, our meetings passed, Guiding is great, we had some fun, Goodnight, Goodnight, Goodnight.
 

pipperpa

Beginner (10+ posts)
GuiderPlus
#14
^Sorry can't seem to edit my previous post - Just realised our adaptation of "Brownies Bells" is actually - Time for the end, our meetings passed, Guiding is great, time flies so fast, Goodnight, Goodnight, Goodnight. My memory! Only sang it last night...
 

badgemad4

Veteran (100+ posts)
#15
We sometimes open with an adapted version of "We're Brownie Guides" to suit the modern promise, sung in a circle. Whether or not we sing it depends on the mood of the girls and how much time we have.
We finish with traditional Brownie Bells (but are always open to changing it if the girls change their mind, they are offered roughly annually if they want to change it, and if they asked any other time it would be discussed as a unit) done with linked swinging arms.
 

fenris

fenris
GuiderPlus
#16
We have a 'readings' book for the end of Brownie meetings, it contains a 50/50 mix of prayers, and of readings which are neutral of any religion. The duty Six chooses from the book, and have a free choice.
 

Kochanski

Veteran (100+ posts)
#17
New version of Brownie song - substitute "to do our best" where it used to be "to love our God".
Our girls rewrote Brownie Bells like this...
Thank you so much
We have had fun
See you next week
Go safely home.
Hm, I wasn't sure at first because I'm a perfectionist and it doesn't really rhyme, but I'm getting used to it and it sounds ok when sung. It has the benefit of still having the same tune so it will fit in when we go to district events.
 

yorkie

Veteran (100+ posts)
#18
we start like Browniebeth but as the girls skip under the arch into the circle they sing their six song- we did the traditions badge a couple of years ago and I explained what I used to do in Brownies. They liked the six songs but I felt they were out of date so they have written their own.

We say goodnight which ever way they want, occassionally that is Brownie Bells but I am uncomfortable with that as we have girls from several different religions. Sometiimes it is just crossed hands and Goodbye, goodbye , goodbye.But the way they prefer is to stand in a circle and sing Brownies born in...., salute and say goodbye, as we reach each month those born in that month do just that. As the song always starts with the next month diffferent girsl get to start or be last every month.
 

Pixielation

Brown Owl (x2)
#19
We start most times with sixes in corners, they take their roll, then each six holds hands and forms the circle on by one while everyone chants "The Hedgehogs are coming etc…", then we sing the Brownie Song (with adapted words).

At the end we sing Brownie Bells (with our own words) and end with "I'm a Brownie, you're a Brownie, all the world over, there are Brownies." Then I say Good night Brownies, and they say good night to me, snowy owl, dragonfly, any parent helpers, then everybody.

The "I'm a Brownie, you're a Brownie…" I inherited from my previous leader, and I think she got it from another unit.
 

PurpleRainbow

Regular (50+ posts)
#20
The Brownies all come into a circle at the beginning and take a partner. Form 2 rings facing your partner and sing "Good Evening friend Brownie(Brownie salute) ,How are you this evening(Shake hands) ,We'll dance in a circle(link hands and dance ) and Bow and pass on. Inside ring doesn't move and outside ring Brownies move 1 place to the left and repeat song. Repeat ,until back with original partner.
To end we link "pinkie fingers" and sing Brownie Bells then sing another song . With actions. 1 foot on the carpet hold on tight, As we go flying into the night, We meet next so don't be late ,The magic carpet will not wait, Brownies disappear! Then all Leaders, YL's say Goodnight individually and Brownies answer each one.