One given reason for the splitting of 14-25 is the different demands of the ages. There might be some commonalities but a 14 is likely to be living a very different life to a 24 YO. But even with the new Ranger section (14-18) there is still some split both in what they are currently experiencing and what might be deemed appropriate for them to learn about. 14 year olds fresh from Guides may want to continue with the format they are used to, and to take part in games. Older members might not mind sometimes doing this but may wish to do more life skill and discussion based meetings. Others before me have posted and discussed about how the fourth section should not just be a safe place to blow off steam, there should still be some educational benefit from attendance and membership. But a talk from say a local safer nights out team, might be appropriate for the 17/8 YOs might be seen as too much for the 14/5s. Similarly a bullying night could seem slightly irrelevant to the very oldest. So how can/ should we balance the needs without compromising for either group?